Saw this add, and called from private line. $120 flat fee for hour message, " but expeience can go longer if desired" She called it adult aroumatheapy massage.


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Please TOFTT and share your experience with us.

I would do it; but, I am too suspicious, not because of LE, but because Euro/NorthAmerican providers have ripped me off more than any other group of providers. They are famous for starting and never finishing, then asking "can you increase the tip?" and the tip is never satisfactory for an HE.

Here in South Florida these $120 tip included places started popping up about two years ago. On my first visit to one of these places which was basically a non asian massage parlor, I was confronted by a cute hispanic girl who wanted me to pay $120 up front without telling me much of anything that I would be getting except to say I would "be happy." I ended up walking out. The second and last place I tried was a different place recommended by a trusted friend and fellow hobbyist who gave me the name of a girl he tried. When I went and asked for the girl she of course wasn't there. Another girl, however, was willing to take care of me. Before paying, I asked what services I would receive but was only told that I would leave happy. I took a chance and paid the $120 and got undressed. She made it clear she would be giving me a "lotion application" not a massage. I would describe the lotion she used as very watered down after shave lotion. (water with a few drops of Old Spice) After a few minutes of this lotion application, the private parts were bumped and I was asked if I was interested in doing anything else. Basically, you get a hj but nothing else unless you pay extra. I don't remember specific amounts because I didn't opt for the additional services, but I remember that fs would have put my total cost close to $350 and I would describe the girl as only cute. I elected to go with the basic hj but the girl seemed pissed I didn't go for more. Hugging, kissing, and touching even on the outside of clothes were considered HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras and not permitted with the basic tip. A cold wet towel was provided for clean up but I had to clean up after myself. I haven't been back to a tip included place since. Good luck to you if you go. Let us know how it goes.

Non-Asian tip included places are what they are because if they didnt get it all up front nonone would tip for that service.

If they matched AMP prices of 60-80 per hour, and gave the HJ HE that is described above, you wouldn't tip. Most wouldn't. So they have the price at 120.00 already.

See what they don't get is the service from the AMP is all about the client (usually) from entrance to exit you are pampered, you are treated well, you do not clean yourself and you almost never have to get dressed without assistance.

The non-Asian tip included places are trying to copy a business model they have no interest in other than taking money. They do not care about the service itself or the person receiving it. The best tip included place wouldn't stand up next to the worst AMP.

TheROCK said " The non-Asian tip included places are trying to copy a business model they have no interest in other than taking money. They do not care about the service itself or the person receiving it. The best tip included place wouldn't stand up next to the worst AMP. ".

I agree whole heartedly and have expereinced such. (I'm older than most of you.) :-) I now am exclusively AMP.

From my experience, Rock and dekr123 are correct. The tip included places are a rip off! I recently saw an ad in Orlando that you negotiate up front for service. I bet that place is a rip off too. They probably get you as high as possible and then do not perform service. Anybody try that yet out there?

I have been ripped off by girls in just about every way you can imagine, including at gunpoint over the years. I could probably write a book on the top 10 scams girls run.....Best Advice: When the bells go off that something is not quite right, RUN and RUN fast!

I should add that I have only been ripped off by an asian place one time. So that is a pretty good track record...